Lisa Brennan-Jobs Discusses Her New Memoir “Small Fry”

CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR: So — I mean, again, every sentence, everything you’re saying to me now is all about trying to establish that connection and trying to feel

less alienated.

LISA BRENNAN-JOBS: Yes.

AMANPOUR: How did it end for you? How did — did you have a verbal resolution on his deathbed?

BRENNAN-JOBS: We had a sort of totally unexpected and very meaningful, I think, kind of Hollywood ending. I mean, you never think, you could never

put it in fiction, right, because it’s too strange. Where he was apologizing for not having spent more time and for how difficult it was and

saying this phrase — like that was so odd, “I owe you one. I owe you one.” I thought, “Hmm. What does that mean?” And I knew that I would

have to take it with me, carry it with me and bring it back to my life and understand it maybe even over years what it meant to me.

AMANPOUR: He has dominated our lives for the last 30-plus years with his inventions, hooking us on to these incredibly beautiful pieces of

technology that really life, you can’t imagine, without it.

BRENNAN-JOBS: Yes.

AMANPOUR: And he’s done his share of commencement addresses and he’s tried to inspire and galvanize other people. I just want to play a little bit

from the very famous speech he gave commencement addresses at Stanford university in 2005.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

STEVE JOBS, AMERICAN ENTREPRENEUR: Your work is going to fill a large part of your life and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you

believe is great work and the only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven’t found it yet, keep looking and don’t settle.

As with all matters of the heart, you’ll know when you find it. And like any great relationship, it just gets better and better as the years roll

on. So, keep looking. Don’t settle.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

AMANPOUR: How does it make you feel to see this man who was your father give so much to so many younger generations and really try to embrace them

and move them across their own finish line?

BRENNAN-JOBS: I think just hearing you say that even now it sounds magnificent, it sounds so meaningful, and I’m so proud of that. I think

that in the book, it’s more complicated because I had to share him. And I talk about at his memorial people coming up to me and saying, “He felt like

a father to me,” I’m thinking, “Oh, oh.” You know, I’m so glad he felt like a father to you. Sometimes he felt like a father to me and other

times he didn’t, and how it — maybe it was more complicate being on the inside of that.