03.17.2021

John Hume Jr. and Martin Luther King III on the Peace Mvmt.

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CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR: How do you see the legacy and how it applies to today?

JOHN HUME JR., SON OF JOHN HUME SR.: Well, first of all, thanks for having me on the show tonight. And a very happy St. Patrick’s Day to everyone from an unusually quiet Dublin tonight for the night that’s in it. I think my father grew up in a very different world to the world I live in today. And in the early ’50s and early — late — early — late ’50s and early ’60s, when he was becoming an adult in Northern Ireland, it was a very, very different place. Discrimination was widespread, and minority Catholic community was — it was a very dark place to be. In my hometown of Derry, there was 80 percent male unemployment. And the apparatus of government was very much controlled by the unionist minority for the unionist minority, and that affected education, that affected access to jobs, even getting a roof over your head. What my father and an entire generation of community leaders learned from the American civil rights movement is very much sort of at the core of nonviolence and standing up for your community. That’s where they got their inspiration. That’s what led to the Northern Ireland civil rights movement of the late 1960s. And, indeed, you can see it throughout the history of Northern Ireland, and what has led us to the much better place we’re in today. I mean, Dr. King may never have stepped foot on the island of Ireland, but you can see his handiwork. You can see his fingerprints, you can see his genius in every single agreement that marked the evolution of Ireland over the last 50 years.

AMANPOUR: And, in fact, you can see the inspiration that your father took from him when he received his Nobel Peace Prize in 1999, and he quoted Martin Luther King. Let’s just play this.

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JOHN HUME SR.: Martin Luther King embodies for me the commitment to the ideals of a true humanism based on loving not just your neighbors, but your enemies.

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AMANPOUR: So, Martin Luther King III, how do you celebrate this moment and realize how pivotal and influenced the civil rights movement, your father was on struggles all over the world, including, of course, in Northern Ireland?

MARTIN LUTHER KING III, PRESIDENT & CEO, REALIZING THE DREAM: Well, when we talk about celebration, I think we may have to pause briefly. We certainly celebrate what our world has, to some degree, done. But it clearly has not learned the message of nonviolence that Gandhi talked about, that Mr. Mandela talked about, that John Hume talked about, and so many others throughout our world. We, as a society, are still at odds with each other.

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