02.06.2020

John Fetterman and Lee Van Horn on Fracking in Swing States

While Joe Biden and other moderate candidates in the 2020 election support a gradual transition away from fracking, Senators Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren call for banning it outright. But in key 2020 swing states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, hundreds of thousands of workers rely on fracking for their jobs. Christiane gains insight from two Pennsylvanians in the crosshairs of the debate.

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CAN YOU ALL JUST SAY LOOK, WE'RE ALL PART OF THE ENERGY FAMILY, WE'RE JUST MOVING INTO DIFFERENT WAYS OF ENERGY?

DOES THE STORY HAVE TO BE TOLD DIFFERENTLY?

I MEAN, YES.

YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE THE SEMICONDUCTOR INDUSTRY, IT'S NOT THE SAME AS IT WAS IN THE '80s IN THE UNITED STATES.

THAT MOVED OVERSEAS AND WE TRANSGRESSED INTO OTHER CAREERS.

RENEWABLE ENERGY HAS AN EXTREMELY BRIGHT FUTURE.

IN OUR COUNTY WHERE I LIVE, THE WIND ENERGY AND COAL IS COEXISTING.

I THINK IF YOU LOOK ON A CURVE, MAYBE WE'RE IN AN AREA WHERE WE'RE INTERSECTING.

SO RENEWABLE ENERGY JOBS ARE GOING TO GO UP AND FOSSIL FUEL JOBS ARE GOING TO SLOWLY GO DOWN.

BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE AR

YOUR STATE, THE PRESIDENCY AND TO THESE ECONOMIC AND ENERGY, YOU KNOW, REALITIES, ARE YOU READY AFTER IOWA TO ENDORSE ANYBODY?

I AM READY TO ENDORSE.

AND I'M HERE TO ENDORSE OUR EVENTUAL NOMINEE.

AND THERE ISN'T ANYTHING THAT I WON'T DO TO GET HIM OR HER ELECTED BECAUSE I WOULD WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE HAVE TO UNIFY OUR PARTY AND MAKE SURE DONALD TRUMP IS A ONE-TERM PRESIDENT.

IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE THESE KIND OF CONVERSATIONS, IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THEY'RE COMPLICATED.

TWO THINGS CAN AND OFTEN ARE TRUE AT THE SAME TIME.

WITH RESPECTS TO FRACKING, I'D WANT TO POINT OUT I'VE NEVER TAKEN A DIME FROM THE INDUSTRY, NEVER HAVE, NEVER WILL.

THE DECISIONS AND THE OPINIONS I HAVE ARE COMING FROM, I BELIEVE, ARE AN INFORMED PLACE HERE ON THE GROUND IN PENNSYLVANIA AND I BELIEVE OUR PARTY NEEDS TO HONOR THE UNION WAY OF LIFE AND SAFEGUARD THESE JOBS AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE MUST BEGIN THE TRANSFER OVER TO RENEWABLES AS WELL.

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Infectious disease expert Jeremy Farrar assesses how dangerous the coronavirus outbreak is. Pennsylvanians John Fetterman and Lee Van Horn discuss how a ban on fracking would affect key swing states in the 2020 election. New York Times tech correspondent Mike Isaac tells Hari Sreenivasan why Uber should be a cautionary tale for corporate greed and the limits of the gig economy.

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