11.13.2019

Mike Rogers & Elizabeth Holtzman on Wednesday’s Hearing

Today, Congress began hearing public testimony in the impeachment inquiry into President Trump. To digest this first day of public impeachment testimony, Christiane speaks with former representatives from both sides of the aisle: former chair of the House Intelligence Committee Mike Rogers and former member of the House Judiciary Committee Elizabeth Holtzman.

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LET ME ASK YOU.

IT IS THE HOUSE DEMOCRATS LEADING THIS PROCESS, HOW DO YOU THINK ADAM SCHIFF AND HIS FELLOW DEMOCRATS CAME OFF.

I THINK ADAM SCHIFF SOUNDED VERY JUDICIAL.

IN CONTROL, HE WAS SUCCINCT, HE WAS CLEAR, I THINK THE DEMOCRATS ON THE COMMITTEE ASKED GOOD QUESTIONS, THEY WERE SUCCINCT, THEY DIDN'T RAMBLE ON.

SO I THINK THEY HANDLED THEMSELVES VERY WELL.

I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, ADAM SCHIFF SAID IT HIMSELF, IT WAS CIVIL I REGRETTED AT THE BEGINNING MR. NUNES WAS REALLY SARCASTIC AND NASCY, HE WAS DISRESPECTFUL, I THINK TO THE WITNESSES.

AND THE IDEA OF CALLING THIS A RUSSIAN HOAX, PLEASE, WE HAVE NOT ONLY THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY OF THE UNITED STATES UNANIMOUSLY, INCLUDING MR.

POMPEO AGREEING WITH THAT, THAT THE RUSSIANS INTERFERED WITH OUR ELECTIONS IN 2016, BUT WE HAVE INDICTMENTS SITTING OUT AGAINST MORE THAN 20 RUSSIANS FOR INTERFERING IN THIS ELECTION.

SO FOR NUNES TO SAY RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IS A HOAX FOR THE PRESIDENT TO CALL THIS A HOAX, IT'S JUST NONSENSE.

I REGRET THAT PART OF IT, BUT I THINK IT WAS CIVIL, THE WITNESSES WERE VERY STRONG, AND THEY MADE A STRONG CASE THAT THE PRESIDENT ORDERED A HOLDUP OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT TO UKRAINE WHICH IS DESPERATELY NEEDED IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE PERSONAL POLITICAL GAIN FOR HIMSELF.

LET ME TURN TO YOU MIKE RODGERS, REPUBLICAN AND FORMER HOUSE CLAIRE OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE.

SO MUCH OF THIS RESOLVED AROUND FOREIGN POLICY.

TO START, DO YOU THINK IT WAS CIVIL, WERE YOU SURPRISED BY THE TONE OF CIVILITY BY AND LARGE?

DO YOU THINK THE REPUBLICANS WERE SUCCESSFUL IN TRYING TO FOCUS ON THE WHISTLE BLOWER.

AND HOW DO YOU THINK THE WITNESSES COMPORTED THEMSELVES?

I'LL START WITH THE WITNESSES, YOU HAVE TWO CAREER DIPLOMATS WHO DID AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB, THEY NEVER SAID, I KNOW SOMETHING WHEN I DIDN'T.

THEY SAID I GOT IT BY INFERENCE OR A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE ELSE.

I THOUGHT ALL OF THAT SPOKE WELL OF THEIR SERVICE TO THEIR COUNTRY.

AND THEY CAME ACROSS VERY WELL.

I HAVE FOUND IN POLITICS, JUST ABOUT ANY TIME WHEN BOTH PARTIES ARE GOING AT IT, IT'S NEVER AS BAD AS ONE PARTY TELLS YOU OR AS GOOD AS THE OTHER PARTY WILL THINK YOU'LL HAVE IT.

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Today, Congress began hearing public testimony in the impeachment inquiry into President Trump. Mike Rogers, Elizabeth Holtzman, Anthony Gardner, Jeff Greenfield and Carl Bernstein join Christiane Amanpour to discuss the main takeaways from the day.

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