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CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR: And you didn’t know what that meant, and you had, as I said, two little boys and you were pregnant. You were nine months pregnant. You were nearly about to have your third child.
DENISE UWIMANA, RWANDAN GENOCIDE SURVIVOR: Yes.
AMANPOUR: So, then what happened?
UWIMANA: Oh, that is really difficult also because sometimes we have — we survivors, we do not know how to express really what we experienced. I was pregnant, and I heard that we were going to be killed. I informed my neighbor that we were going to be killed. We make peace to separate. And I — in my house, we’re ten people. We met in the corridor. We knew we were going to be killed. We had time to say goodbye. And I must leave, flee in the bathroom because I heard that the militias were coming. I had my second son on my back. Others went in my bedroom, other in guest room. So, in the bathroom, there I struggled really with God. And I have reason to struggle with him. For my faith. I was a Christian. My husband was not there. So — and there, I told to God, “You disappoint me. Why didn’t you never tell me the truth I be killed?”
AMANPOUR: In the middle of this you gave birth?
UWIMANA: When the killers met me in the bathroom, instead of killing me, they start a discussion with me. They asked me money. I said, “I don’t have money.” They said, “We’re going to kill you,” but they wanted the money. I went in my bathroom and I saw my beloved cousins down.
AMANPOUR: You saw your dead cousins?
UWIMANA: Yes, down. So, I took money, I gave them. When I gave to them, one went to kill me. He said, “No, why you don’t want to kill this Tutsi woman?” He rose the sword to kill me, and I stopped him. And I went in my bedroom. Under the bedroom, they will I see my cousin, Manasseh, he was still alive. He told me, “Please, make me come under the bed, I’m still alive.” I crawled myself under the bed. There was full of blood of people who were killed. Can you imagine?
AMANPOUR: So, you crawled into all of that blood under the bed?
UWIMANA: Yes. I stayed there the whole afternoon. During the night, water broken to attempt to give birth.
AMANPOUR: Your water’s broke there and then?
UWIMANA: Yes. So — and all the time, I was hearing my cousin always crying, crying, “Jesus of Nazareth, help me. Help,” until she finished. You can you imagine such traumatic… I breathed the blood.
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Christiane Amanpour speaks with Denise Uwimana about living through the Rwandan genocide and Mishal Husain about women climbing the career ladder. Alicia Menendez speaks with Dr. Homer Venters about the health risks for inmates and staff at Rikers Island.
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