07.21.2021

Taliban Spokesperson Committed to Peace Negotiations

Some of the Afghans who have benefitted from the last 20 years of relative democracy, women’s rights and freedoms are terrified of a return to the past.

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JUST INSIDE AFGHANISTAN BUT NOT THOSE WATCHING THESE NEGOTIATIONS WHO ARE VERY CONCERNED THAT YOU TALK A PEACE GAME AND YOU TALK NEGOTIATIONS AROUND THE TABLE BUT ON THE GROUND YOU ARE FIGHTING OR YOU ARE GETTING, YOU KNOW, HOOVERING UP TERRITORY AND REALLY MAKING A LOT OF GAINS ACCORDING TO THE LATEST OFFICIALS YOUR FIGHTS HAVE MORE THAN TRIPLED THE NUMBER OF DISTRICTS UNDER TALIBAN CONTROL.

THAT MAKES PEOPLE SCARED THAT VICTORY.WANT IS DOMINANCE AND WHY -- I MEAN, SHOULDN'T PEOPLE?

IF WE HAD TAKEN ALL THOSE DISTRICTS BY FORCE, THEN WE CAN BE BLAMED.

IF THE SECURITY FORCES OF THE KABUL ADMINISTRATION ARE COMING TO OUR SIDE AND THEY ARE JOINING US ALONG WITH THEIR WEAPONS.

SO WHY WE SHOULD BE?

IT MEANS THAT THEY NO MORE TRUST THE KABUL ADMINISTRATION.

THEY CAST US.

OUR FORCES HAD GONE TO THE KABUL ADMINISTRATION, THEY WOULD HAVE OVERCOME THAT AND WE ALSO WILL COME THAT VIEW.

SO THEY ARE WANT TO PUT END TO THE FIGHTING SO THAT IS THEIR PROBLEM, THAT THEY ARE COMING TO US VOLUNTARILY, NOT BY FORCE.

OKAY.

YOU SAY THAT AND MAYBE IN SOME PLACES THAT IS THE CASE.

BUT IN MANY OTHER PLACES THERE IS FULL SCALE COMBAT ON THE GROUND.

WE READ ABOUT IT EVERY DAY.

WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME IN THE MEDIA.

AND I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IS THE TALIBAN AFTER ALL THESE YEARS PREPARED FOR AN ACTUAL PEACE SETTLEMENT, ONE THAT ENABLES YOU AND THE AFGHAN GOVERNMENT SIDE AND ALL PARTIES TO ACTUALLY HAVE A STAKE IN THE?

OR ARE YOU STILL LOOKING FOR VICTORY NO MATTER HOW MUCH -- HOW IT COMES?

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