The Truth Behind America’s Torture Program

CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR: Tell me what is the most important reveal for you that the public should know now that those acres and acres of black bars have been removed, those redactions have been removed from your text and from your account?

ALI SOUFAN, FORMER FBI AGENT: Wow. A lot. I’m sure you and many of your listeners remember the dirty bomb, the so-called dirty bomb and how it was a result of interrogation techniques and waterboarding. And now, you will see how we get information that led us to the arrest of Jose Padilla, the accused dirty bomber. It has nothing to do with torture, it has nothing to do with waterboarding. Information that the public heard about in the aftermath of 9/11. Plots in New York, plots in L.A., disruption of (INAUDIBLE) in Southeast Asia, all these, you know, plots were claimed to be stopped because of torture. And none of this information came because of torture. The identification of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, also known as KSM, as the mastermind of 9/11, it happened when I showed Abu Zubaydah, you know, a suspected terrorist, the wrong photo, and I said, is this the guy you’re telling me about, and he looked at me and he said, no, this Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, this is Mukhtar. He called him by Qaeda name, this is Mukhtar. This is a mastermind of the plain operations. That’s how we got information, and it was so disheartening to see some of these plots being exaggerated and then later being claimed to be the result of a program that was a total failure. Now, the American people and the world can read the truth.