>>> BAGHDADI'S PERSONAL REIGN OF

TERROR IS OVER.

HE KILLED HIMSELF AND TWO

CHILDREN AS U.S. SPECIAL FORCES

CLOSED IN.

HIS DEATH COMES AS THE WORLD IS

STILL TRYING TO COME TO GRIPS

WITH THE TRUE SCOPE OF THE

BRUTALITY ORCHESTRATED BY ISIS

INCLUDING THE GENOCIDE OF THE

PEOPLE.

HE RAPED AND TORTURED THOUSANDS

OF MEMBERS OF THAT RELIGIOUS

MINORITY IN NORTHERN IRAQ.

AND THE EFFORT TO TRULY

COMPREHEND THE SEEMINGLY INCOME

PRE HENCIBLE ATROCITIES IS BEING

LED IN LARGE PART BY A FRENCH

PRIEST.

FATHER PATRICK DUBOIS HAS SPENT

MUCH OF HIS ADULT LIFE DO THING

THE MASS EXECUTIONS CARRIED OUT

BY THE NAZIS.

NOW HE AND HIS TEAM ARE

INVESTIGATING ONE OF THIS

CENTURY'S WORST ACTS OF GENOCIDE

AND SHERIFF THE STORIES OF THE

SURVIVORS.

IN HIS RECENT BOOK, THE

TERRORIST ISIS AND EXPORTING

TERROR.

HE JOINS US NOW.

FIRST OF ALL, COULD YOU TELL AS

YOU LITTLE ABOUT THE YAZIDI?

HOW DO THEY DIFFER FROM THEIR

NEIGHBORS?

>> SO YAZIDI, THEY ARE PEOPLE

LIVING IN THE MOUNTAINS IN IRAQ

AND SYRIA.

THEY ARE NOT CHRISTIAN.

THEY HAVE THEIR OWN RELIGION.

THEY ARE VERY EXTREME.

THEY ARE CLASSIFIED BY ISIS AS

DEVIL WORSHIPPERS BECAUSE THEY

HAVE NO BOOK.

SINCE THE BEGINNING, BAGHDADI

TOLD THEM HE WOULD PUT THEM THAT

SLAVERY.

>> SO FATHER, WHY DID YOU DECIDE

TO GET THIS STORY SO THE

SURVIVORS, AND TO GO TO THE

CAMPS WHERE MANY OF THEM FLED?

AT A TIME WHEN THE SO-CALLED

CALIPHATE STILL EXISTED, WHEN IT

WAS VERY DANGEROUS?

>> YEAH.

I SAW THE IMAGE OF THE AMERICAN

TRYING TO SAVE YAZIDI ON AUGUST

14, AND I SAW, THEY SAID IT WAS

A GENOCIDE.

I TOOK THREE DAYS TO PRAY AND I

SAID TO MY ORGANIZATION, I WILL

NOT WATCH ON TV.

WE HAVE TO GO TO IRAQ AND WE

BEGAN FROM SCRATCH.

>> SO TELL US, WHAT ARE THE

STORIES THAT YOU LEARNED?

WHAT KIND OF CRIMES AND

SUFFERING DID THEY ENDURE?

>> THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY

SPLIT THE FAMILY.

THEY TOOK ALL THE VIRGIN GIRLS

AND SOLD THEM, MARRIED THEM.

A GIRL WHO GOES OUT OF ISIS

TODAY HAS BEEN SOLD BETWEEN 25

TO 35 TIMES.

AND FORCED PREGNANCY FROM THESE

PEOPLE.

FOR THE CHILDREN, THEY TOOK THEM

AT 7 YEARS OLD AND PUT THEM

TRAINING CAMP OF TERRORISTS AND

SO THE CHILDREN DON'T REMEMBER

THEIR MOTHER'S FACE, DON'T

REMEMBER THEIR FATHER'S FACE,

DON'T SPEAK THE LANGUAGE.

THEY DESTROYED THE FAMILIES.

>> AS YOU WRITE THE CHILLING

CHAPTER ABOUT MASS SHOOTINGS AND

MASS GRAVES, TALK A LITTLE ABOUT

THAT.

>> SO ALSO, THEY DECIDED TO

FORCE PEOPLE TO CONVERT TO

ISLAM.

SO IF THEY REFUSE, THEY WERE

SHOT.

SO FOR THE FIRST, WE FOUND 30

MASS GRAVES OF YAZIDI IN THE

MOUNTAINS AND THE GRAVES WERE

ALREADY OPEN.

>> DID THIS HAPPEN BECAUSE THE

YAZIDI REFUSE TO CONVERT?

OR WAS THERE MORE TO IT THAN

THAT THAT MOTIVATED ISIS TO

COMMIT THIS GENOCIDE?

>> ISIS WAS KILLING ANYBODY NOT

LIKE THEM.

ANYONE NOT RELIGIOUS COULD BE

KILLED.

THE CHRISTIANS WERE KILLED.

AND THE YAZIDI WERE THE WORST

BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO BOOK.

SO THEY'RE CLASSIFIED THEM AS

EVIL PEOPLE.

SO THEY COULD DO WHAT THEY

WANTED.

BY EXAMPLE, I INTERVIEWED A

WIFE.

SHE WAS 8 YEARS OLD AS A CHILD.

AND SHE TOLD ME SHE WAS THE ONLY

SURVIVOR OF THE RAPE.

SHE WAS RAPED BY FIVE GIRLS AND

ALL THE OTHER GIRLS DIED.

ANYTHING WAS POSSIBLE FOR THEM.

>> AND WHO WERE THE MEN WHO DID

THESE THINGS?

WHERE DID THE ISIS FIGHTERS COME

FROM?

>> SO FROM EVERYWHERE.

OF COURSE FROM ARAB COUNTRIES,

FROM JORDAN, FROM SAUDI, FROM --

BUT ALSO FROM AMERICA AND FROM

CANADA AND FROM FRANCE AND FROM

BELGIUM AND FROM GERMANY AND

FROM CHINA.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANT TO JOIN

ISIS TROOPS TO CLEAN THE PLANET.

>> YOU SAY AT ONE POINT IN YOUR

BOOK, YOU NEED NEIGHBORS TO HAVE

A GENOCIDE.

>> I WILL NEVER FORGET THAT

STORY.

ONE CHILD, MY BEST FRIEND

INVITED ME IN HIS HOME TO PLAY

AND SUDDENLY, HE CLOSED THE ROOM

AND HE PHONED TO ISIS AND HE

SAID I HAVE ONE IN MY HOME.

HE SAID I HAVE GIVEN TO BAGHDADI

BY MY BEST FRIEND.

>> HOW DOES EXPERIENCE THAT YOU

ENCOUNTERED COMPARE TO WHAT YOU

LEARNED ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?

>> IT IS SIMILAR.

THE NAZIS WERE KILLING ANYBODY

NOT LIKE THEM.

THE DIFFERENCE IS ISIS DECIDED

TO SWECH THE BRAIN OF ALL THE

CHILDREN.

BAGHDADI DIED BUT THEY SAID WE

WILL ALL DIE.

WE WILL DIE IN MOSUL, IN RIKA,

IN SYRIA, BUT YOU CHILDREN WILL

SURVIVE AND YOU WILL BE THE NEXT

GENERATION.

SO HITLER DIDN'T DO THAT.

HITLER WAS KILLING THE JEWS EVEN

BABIES.

BAGHDADI DIDN'T DO THAT.

SOMETIMES YOUNG CHRISTIANS IN

FIGHTERS.

HE HAD THE VISION.

BAGHDADI IS DEAD.

BUT IT IS FARTHER AND FARTHER,

NO CHILDREN FROM ANY COUNTRY,

EVEN FROM AMERICA, EVEN FROM

FRANCE, FROM GERMANY AND FROM

HAD IRAQ COUNTRY.

>> YOU SAID YOU DID NOT WANT THE

PHOTOGRAPHS TO BE PUT IN SOME

FUTURE YAZIDI GENOCIDE MUSEUM AS

HAS BEEN IN HOLOCAUST MUSEUMS.

WHY IS THAT?

>> I SPOKE TO THE UNITED NATIONS

AND I SAID I WOULD NOT LIKE TO

COME BACK IN 20 YEARS AND WE

MAKE THE CEREMONY OF THE MUSEUM

OF HOLOCAUST, OF YAZIDI.

WE MUST STOP THE GENOCIDE.

IT IS WHY WE BEGAN TO ACT DURING

THE ACTION.

AND ISIS IS STILL ALIVE.

IT IS NOT DEAD.

IT IS A MISTAKE OF VISION.

>> CORRECT ME IF I'M

MISCHARACTERIZING WHAT YOU SAID.

IT SEEMS TO ME, THE BOOK PONDERS

THE QUESTION OF HOW WE IN THE

WEST COULD CONTINUE TO LIVE OUR

LIVES IN AN ORDINARY WAY WHICH

THIS GENOCIDE WAS HAPPENING AT

THE SAME TIME, RELATIVELY

OPENLY.

NOT HIDDEN.

WHAT'S THE ANSWER?

>> THE ANSWER IS THAT THERE IS A

MINIMUM OF PEOPLE ARE SENSITIVE

TO A GENOCIDE.

THE MAJORITY SLEEP WELL AND

DON'T CARE.

SO WHAT I TRY FOR MY BOOK AND MY

ORGANIZATION IS TO WAKE UP THE

MINORITY.

WE TRY TRAIN A GENERATION OF

LEADERS WHO WILL NOT SLEEP WELL.

>> I WONDER IF IT IS THE

SITUATION, THE ANSWER IS NOT

MORE DAMNING THAN THAT.

I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY YEARS AGO

TO INTERVIEW THE HAITIAN WRITER.

AND I ASKED HER, THERE WAS THIS

GAIK KILLED A QUARTER OF A

MILLION PEOPLE IN YOUR COUNTRY.

JUST A FEW WEEKS AFTERWARD, THE

HEADLINES DISAPPEARED.

WASN'T WRITTEN ABOUT.

I ASKED, HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE IS

THIS SHE SAID IT IS BECAUSE WE

IN THE WEST LOOK AT THINGS LIKE

THAT AS TO ALMOST WHAT IS

EXPECTED IN PLACES OVER THERE

LIKE THAT.

THAT WE EXPECT THOSE KINDS OF

BAD THINGS TO HAPPEN OVER THERE

WHICH WE WOULD BE HORRIFIED IF

IT HAPPENED TO US.

I WONDER IF THIS DEHUMANIZATION

IS PART OF THE ANSWER?

>> YEAH.

MOST OF THE PEOPLE CARE ONLY IF

IT TOUCH THEIR FAMILY, THEIR

COLOR, THEIR CITY.

WHEN WE ARE SHOOTING IN PARIS,

WE HAD 1 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE

STREET.

WHEN WE ARE KILLING IN NICE,

SOUTH OF FRANCE, NOBODY WAS IN

THE STREET.

IT WAS ALREADY THE SOUTH.

SO PEOPLE SAY, OKAY, I'M

AMERICAN MYSELF LIFE IS NICE.

WHY I WOULD CARE?

I'M FRENCH, I'M GERMAN, WHY I

WOULD CARE?

MOST PEOPLE ARE ONLY CONCERNED

BY THEMSELVES.

IT IS WHY WE HAVE TO WAKE UP A

MINORITY OF PEOPLE.

NO.

PLANET IS ONE.

I CANNOT SAY I LIVE ON AN

ISLAND.

>> SO WHAT IS THE PROPER

RESPONSE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE

ABOUT THE ISIS GENOCIDE?

WHAT SHOULD WE BE DOING?

FIRST, TO OPEN OUR EYES.

SAID ONLY ON FACEBOOK, IF

ANYTHING, WE CAN SAY THERE ARE

18 CAMPS OF YAZIDI.

25,000 PEOPLE IN EACH CAMP.

YOU CAN HELP.

WE HAVE TO CARE OVER WHY THE

END, WE RECEIVE FROM GOD SAYING

WHERE IS YOUR WROTE?

>> SO YOU'VE TOUCHED ON THIS IN

THE COURSE OF THE CONVERSATION.

I WONDER IF YOU CAN ELABORATE

HOW THE YAZIDI PEOPLE ARE DOING

TODAY AND WHAT THEIR FUTURE

LOOKS LIKE.

>> TODAY, 18 CAMPS, EACH CAMP IS

15,000 TO 25,000.

THEY HAVE NO EXIT.

THEY ARE STILL WAITING THEIR

FAMILY TO COME BACK.

I CAN TELL YOU BY EXAMPLE, I SAW

AN ORPHAN ARRIVING, 6 YEARS OLD.

HE APPROACHED ME AND SAID I

DON'T KNOW MY NAME.

I SEE THEM, I WOULD BE SO HAPPY.

SO WITH FOREIGN CHILDREN LIKE

THAT NO, FUTURE.

WE TRY TO EDUCATE AND TO MAKE A

SIMILAR FAMILY AND TO BRING THEM

TO THEIR FUTURE.

THEY HAVE BEEN THROWN OUT OUR

PLANET AND WE HAVE TO HELP THEM

COME BACK.

IF WE DON'T DO THAT, WE PREPARE

THE LAND FOR A NEW GENOCIDE

ANYWHERE.

>> YOU WARN IN THIS CONVERSATION

ABOUT THE FUTURE OF ISIS.

THAT THEY'RE NOT DEAD.

BAGHDADI MAY BE DEAD.

ISIS IS NOT DEAD.

WHAT'S THE BEST FACE OF THE ISIS

ONSLAUGHT?

>> ISIS IS APPARENTLY TRYING TO

TAKE BACK POCKETS OF TERRITORY

IN IRAQ AND SYRIA AND ALSO IN

MALI AND ALSO IN AFGHANISTAN AND

ALSO SLEEPING CELLS OUTSIDE.

TRYING TO EXPORT THE FIGHTERS

AND THE REFUGEE SYSTEM.

SO WE ARE VERY WORRIED.

IT IS NOT TO SAY NO TO REFUGEE,

NOT TO SAY YES.

TO MAKE A SCREENING.

OTHERWISE, THEY WILL ENJOY THE

SYSTEM OF REFUGEE TO COME INTO

OUR COUNTRIES.

AND WE WORK WITH MANY COUNTRIES

TO SAY AT LEAST THE CHILDREN

HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED.

GIVE US TIME.

GIVE US TWO WORDS.

IT IS TO BE SMART, I WOULD SAY.

ALSO MANY PEOPLE CAN MAKE A LIFE

IN OUR COUNTRY IF WE HELP THEM.

BUT DON'T FORGET THEY TRAIN

THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS AND

THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN.

BAGHDADI WAS BELIEVING IN THE

FUTURE.

IT'S MY TIME.

>> THIS IS THE FINAL QUEFLT I

HAVE TO ASK IT.

THE BOOK.

THE THINGS YOU DESCRIBE IN THE

BOOK, IT'S LIKE A VISIT TO HELL.

IT'S EVIL THAT CHALLENGES THE

IMAGINATION.

IT TRULY IS.

YET YOU ARE A CATHOLIC PRIEST.

YOU BELIEVE IN AN ALL POWERFUL,

ALL GOOD LOVING GOD.

HOW CAN YOU CONTINUE TO BELIEVE

THAT IN THE FACE OF THE HORROR

AND THE EVILS THAT YOU WITNESS

HE HAVE DAY?

>> THE WORST CASES, WE REMEMBER

THIS WOMAN.

SHE WAS MARRIED BY FORCE BY AN

ISLAMIC JUDGE.

HER HUSBAND MADE 75 BEHEADINGS.

ONLY IN ONE CITY, ALEPPO, AND

SHE HAD TO WATCH AND EXPLAIN.

IT TOOK US EIGHT HOURS TO

LISTEN.

WE HAD TO LOVE, TO CARE.

BUT ALSO NO LOVE WITHOUT

JUSTICE.

NO LOVE WITHOUT TRUTH.

OTHERWISE, WE ARE, IF WE DON'T

BRING LOVE TO THE WORST COUNTRY,

WE MUST BRING LOVE WHERE EVIL

SUCCEEDS.

AND I CAN TELL YOU WITH ISIS,

THEY SUCCEED.

>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC.

WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT YOU CAME TO

SHARE IT WITH US.

>> THANK YOU.