>>> NEXT, ALMOST 3,000 INCIDENTS

OF ANTISYMPTOMATIC BEHAVIOR WERE

FOUND IN 2021 THROUGHOUT THE

UNITED STATES THE HIGHEST NUMBER

ON RECORD IN OVER 40 YEARS.

DEBRA LIPSTAT IS PROFESSOR OF

MODERN JEWISH HISTORY AND

HOLOCAUST STUDIES AT EMORY

UNIVERSITY AND THE NEWLY

APPOINTED SPECIAL ENVOY TO

MONITOR AND COMBAT ANTI-SEMITISM

FOR THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION.

IN 2000 SHE FAMOUSLY DEFEATED

HOLOCAUST DENIER DAVID IRVING IN

A LIBEL SUIT IN THE BRITISH HIGH

COURT AND JOINS US TO DISCUSS

THE RISE AND THE PERVASIVE

NATURE OF THESE ATTACKS.

THIS INTERVIEW IS PART OF

EXPLORING HATE.

OUR ONGOING SERIES ON

ANTI-SEMITISM, RACISM, AND

EXTREMISM.

>> THANK YOU CHRISTIANE AND

AMBASSADOR BACK TO THE SHOW.

>> THANK YOU.

IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

>> YOU ARE THE SPECIAL ENVOY TO

MONITOR AND COMBAT

ANTI-SEMITISM.

IT USED TO BE SOMETHING WE DID

EXCLUSIVELY ABROAD.

TO WHAT EXTENT DO YOU HAVE TO

FOCUS NOW ON THIS PROBLEM

DOMESTICALLY?

>> I AM AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT

WHICH MEANS MY REMIT IS OUTSIDE

THE BOUNDARIES OF THE UNITED

STATES.

THAT IS OFFICIALLY AND WHERE I

WILL SPEND MOST OF MY ENERGIES.

IF YOU REMEMBER BACK IN JANUARY

IN TEXAS THE TERRORIST CAME AND

HELD PEOPLE HOSTAGE IN THE

SYNAGOGUE FOR ABOUT 12 HOURS

BEFORE THEY MIRACULOUSLY

ESCAPED.

HE CAME HERE FROM ENGLAND, FROM

THE MIDDLE EAST, AND WAS

RADICALIZED TO SOME EXTENT IN A

MOSQUE IN ENGLAND.

OFFICIALLY IT WAS DOMESTIC

TERRORISM BUT YOU CAN'T SEPARATE

FROM WHAT HE GOT ABROAD.

SO THOUGH MOST OF MY WORK WILL

BE ABROAD I AM VERY CONSCIOUS OF

THE INTERCONNECTEDNESS OF WHAT

IS GOING ON.

>> EXPLAIN THAT

INTERCONNECTEDNESS OF SORT OF

THE ANTI-SEMITISM WELLING UP

ABROAD, THE TERRORISM THAT COMES

AND PEOPLE GETTING RADICALIZED

LIKE WHAT HAPPENED IN

COLLEYVILLE AND HOW IT PLAYS IN

TO BOTH THE ANTISICH-SEMITISM A

RADICALISM IN THE UNITED STATES

>> I AM NOT SURPRISED YOU

PHRASED IT THAT WAY BECAUSE IT

IS AN INTERLOCKING WHOLE.

EACH PREJUDICE, RADICALISM,

WHETHER WHITE SUPREMACY OR

ANOTHER FORM OF PREJUDICE, HAS

ITS DISTINCT CHARACTERISTICS.

ANTI-SEMITISM HAS UNIQUE

CHARACTERISTICS.

IT IS FREE FLOWING.

IT COMES FROM EVERY PLACE ON THE

POLITICAL SPECTRUM.

IT COMES FROM CHRISTIANS,

MUSLIMS, EVEN JEWS.

IF YOU ADD TO THAT WHAT WE ARE

SEEING TODAY IN THE GROWTH OF

CONSPIRACY THEORIES NOT JUST IN

THIS COUNTRY BUT ABROAD TO

WHETHER IT IS ABOUT COVID, ABOUT

ELECTIONS, WHETHER IT IS ABOUT

FINANCES, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.

ANTI-SEMITISM HAS THIS UNIQUE

CHARACTERISTIC UNLIKE MOST OTHER

PREJUDICES OF BEING AT ITS HEART

A CONSPIRACY THEORY.

THE IDEA IS JEWS CONTROL THE

MEDIA, JEWS CONTROL THE BANK.

JEWS CONTROL THE GOVERNMENT,

CULTURE, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.

SO THAT THE ANTI-SEMITE BEGINS

IF HE IS LOOKING OR SHE IS

LOOKING FOR SOMEONE WHO CAUSED

COVID SHE IS SURE IT'S THE JEWS

AND JUST HAS TO FIND THE

CONNECTION.

IF SHE IS NOT AN ANTI-SEMITE TO

BEGIN WITH BUT IS SURE THERE IS

A CONSPIRACY BEHIND COVID, WELL,

SHE HAS TO FIND SOMEONE WITH THE

POWER, THE EVIL CHARACTERISTICS

WHOSE CONNIVING ENOUGH, CLEVER

ENOUGH TO BE DOING THIS, AND SHE

ENDS UP WITH THE JEW.

SO THE JEW BECOMES A VERY

CONVENIENT SCAPEGOAT WHEN YOU'VE

GOT CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND WE

ARE LIVING IN THIS DAY AND AGE

OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES.

SO THAT IS ONE POINT I THINK TO

ANSWER YOUR INTERCONNECTEDNESS.

THE OTHER POINT IS WE'RE SEEING

TREMENDOUS MOVEMENTS OF

POPULATIONS.

FROM AFRICA, FROM SOUTH AMERICA,

LATIN AMERICA, FROM MUSLIM

COUNTRIES, INTO COUNTRIES THAT

THINK OF THEMSELVES OR A PORTION

OF THEIR POPULATION THINKS OF

THEMSELVES AS WHITE, CHRISTIAN

COUNTRIES.

AND YOU'VE HAD THIS, YOU HAVE

THIS GREAT REPLACEMENT THEORY,

WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING NEW BUT

WHICH HAS GOTTEN ADDED MILEAGE

IN THE PAST FIVE, SIX YEARS,

SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHICH

CLAIMS THAT THERE IS AN

ORGANIZED EFFORT, A CONSPIRACY

AFOOT TO REPLACE WHITE,

CHRISTIAN CULTURE, WHITE,

CHRISTIANS AND REPLACE IT WITH

MUSLIMS, PEOPLE OF COLOR, BLACK

PEOPLE, PEOPLE FROM AFRICA.

BUT, SAYS THE PERSON WHO

SUBSCRIBES TO THIS ABSURD

THEORY, THESE PEOPLE, BLACK

PEOPLE, PEOPLE OF COLOR,

MUSLIMS, THEY ARE NOT SMART

ENOUGH.

SOME OF THIS IS GOING TO SOUND

FAMILIAR FROM WHAT I JUST SAID

BEFORE.

WEALTHY ENOUGH.

POWERFUL ENOUGH.

EVIL ENOUGH.

AND SNEAKY ENOUGH TO BE DOING

THIS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, SO

THEY DON'T GET CAUGHT BUT

THEY'RE THE PUPPETEERS AND THEY

END UP AT THE JEW.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUFFALO, THE

TERRIBLE TRAGEDY IN BUFFALO,

LAST MONTH, WHERE THIS MAN WENT

LOOKING FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD TO

KILL AS MANY BLACK PEOPLE AS HE

COULD, IF YOU READ HIS SO-CALLED

MANIFESTO, IT IS 180 PAGES.

I URGE YOUR VIEWERS NOT TO READ

IT.

I DID IT ALREADY.

I SAVED YOU THE TROUBLE.

IT'S HORRIBLE.

IT'S FILLED WITH RACIST

DIATRIBES BUT LINKED TOGETHER IS

ANTISYM

ANTISYMPTOMATIC -- ANTI-SEMITIC

DIATRIBES.

HE SEES BLACKS PROLIFERATING, HE

SEES THEM BEING IN THE WHITE

HOUSE, HE SEES THEM GAINING

INFLUENCE, AND THERE MUST -- WHO

IS BEHIND THEM?

WHO'S MANIPULATING THEM?

IT'S THE JEW.

SO WHEN I AM FIGHTING

ANTI-SEMITISM OR TRYING TO

COMBAT, TRYING TO EDUCATE ABOUT

IT, NOT ONLY DO I SEE THE

LINKAGE BETWEEN DOMESTIC AND

INTERNATIONAL BUT I ALSO SEE THE

LINKAGE WITH OTHER PREJUDICES.

YOU CAN'T FIGHT HATE IN A SILO.

>> YOU'VE SAID THAT AT THE ROOT

OF ANTI-SEMITISM, GLOBALLY,

HISTORICALLY, AND IN THE UNITED

STATES, IS A CONSPIRACY THEORY.

THIS NOTION THAT THERE'S SOME

DARK CONSPIRACY.

WE'VE ALWAYS HAD CONSPIRACY

THEORIES FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.

WHAT SEEMS DIFFERENT NOW IS THAT

THEY CAN GET AMPLIFIED AND

SPREAD THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA.

HOW MUCH ARE YOU FOCUSED ON

THAT?

>> VERY, VERY MUCH SO.

I'M MEETING IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS

WITH COUNTERPARTS FROM EUROPE

WHO ALSO ARE -- WHO HAVE SIMILAR

PORTFOLIOS FROM THE EU, FROM

GERMANY, ENGLAND, AND THEY'RE

ALL VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT.

YOU KNOW, WALTER, WHEN I FIRST

STARTED TO STUDY HOLOCAUST

DENIAL MOST PEOPLE THOUGHT I WAS

CRAZY TO SPEND MY TIME DOING

THAT.

SADLY, I WAS NOT.

I WAS PRESCIENT.

BUT IF I WANTED TO FIND DENIAL

MATERIALS, I HAD TO ORDER THEM.

I DIDN'T BECAUSE THERE ARE

PEOPLE WHO ARCHIVE THEM.

BUT IF YOU WANT THE DENIAL

MATERIAL YOU ORDERED THEM AND

GOT THEM IN A PLAIN ENVELOPE

MAYBE IN A P.O. BOX FROM A P.O.

BOX.

NOBODY WANTED TO BE ABLE TO BE

TRACKED.

TODAY, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO

TO MRS. GOOGLE AS I LIKE TO CALL

HER OR WHATEVER YOUR BROWSER IS

AND PUT IN, WITH A FEW KEY

STROKES, YOU GET ANYTHING YOU

WANT.

SO I DON'T WANT TO BEAT UP ON

SOCIAL MEDIA.

I USE IT IN MY RESEARCH, MY

WRITING, MY JOB NOW.

BUT SOCIAL MEDIA IS LIKE A

KNIFE.

A KNIFE IN THE HANDS OF A KILLER

CAN DO TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE

DAMAGE.

A KNIFE IN THE HANDS OF A

SURGEON CAN SAVE YOUR LIFE.

IT'S HOW WE USE IT.

>> DO YOU WORRY THAT WITH

MIDTERM ELECTIONS AND THE

PARTISANSHIP AND POLARIZATION

WE'RE HAVING THAT PEOPLE ARE

GOING TO HEAR AND AROUND THE

WORLD IN ELECTIONS AROUND THE

WORLD, STOKE UP ANTI-SEMITISM?

>> YES, ABSOLUTELY.

IT IS A TERRIFIC TOOL THAT SOME

PEOPLE WILL USE AND USE FREELY

AND USE ENTHUSIASTICALLY AND

THEN ENGAGE IN WHAT I CALL THE

MISS PIGGY DEFENSE.

WHAT?

ME?

AN ANTI-SEMITE?

NO, NOT AT ALL.

BUT WE SEE IT.

I WAS AN EXPERT WITNESS IN THE

CHARLOTTESVILLE CIVIL SUIT

BROUGHT AGAINST THE GROUPS THAT

CONDUCTED THE UNITE THE RIGHT

RALLY IN THE SUMMER OF 2017.

SO I READ ALL OF THEIR

EXCHANGES, THEIR E-MAILS,

THEIR -- ALL THE DIFFERENT

EXCHANGES.

AND THESE WERE PEOPLE WHO CAME

POISED TO DO VIOLENCE AND WHO

WERE COMPELLED BY DEEP SEEDED

RACISM AND DEEP SEEDED

ANTI-SEMITISM AND, THIRDLY, A

DEEP SEEDED COMMITMENT TO

VIOLENCE.

I THINK THESE MIDTERM ELECTIONS

MAY BE AMONGST THE MOST CRUCIAL

OUR COUNTRY HAS FACED BECAUSE OF

THAT.

NOT BECAUSE OF ONE PARTY OR THE

OTHER BUT BECAUSE THERE IS THIS

GROWING RADICALIZATION.

YOU KNOW, YOU SEE IT ALL OVER.

WE'RE SEEING IT MORE FROM THE,

AND MORE OVERTLY FROM THE RIGHT

NOW.

BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO BE

CAREFUL.

WHEREVER IT COMES, WHEN I WAS,

BEFORE THE SENATE FOREIGN

RELATIONS COMMITTEE FOR MY

HEARING, I DESCRIBED MYSELF AS

AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FIGHTER OF

ANTI-SEMITISM.

I DON'T CARE WHERE IT COMES

FROM.

I'M GOING TO FIGHT IT.

>> WHAT DID CHARLOTTESVILLE AND

YOUR INVOLVEMENT THERE TEACH YOU

ABOUT THE CONNECTION BETWEEN

ANTI-SEMITISM AND RACISM?

>> IT TAUGHT ME THAT THE TWO ARE

INTERCONNECTED.

IT SHOWED IT TO ME SO

GRAPHICALLY.

IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THESE PEOPLE

WERE SAYING TO ONE ANOTHER, IF

YOU LOOK AT THE SYMBOLS THEY

BROUGHT.

NOW, IT IS VERY INTERESTING.

IF YOU LOOKED AT THEIR FLAGS AND

SHIELDS AND BANNERS, THERE WERE

VIRTUALLY NO SWASTIKAS.

BUT THE ONE WHO UNDERSTOOD AND

WHO KNOWS AND AS I AM, I SAW

LOADS OF NAZI SYMBOLS.

SOMETHING CALLED THE BLACK SUN.

DIFFERENT SYMBOLS THAT WERE

RELIED ON BY THE NAZI PARTY.

MAYBE NOT CREATED BY THEM BUT

RELIED ON BY THEM.

I SAW OVERT RACISM AND OVERT

ANTI-SEMITISM.

I SAW HOW THESE TWO, FOR THESE

HATERS, THESE ARE NOT TWO

SEPARATE HATREDS.

THESE ARE FIRMLY INTERTWINED.

THEY ARE LINKED.

AND IF WE'RE GOING TO FIGHT ONE

WE'VE GOT TO RECOGNIZE THIS.

>> SO YOU'RE IN THE STATE

DEPARTMENT MAINLY DEALING

OVERSEAS.

LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT A COMPLEX

QUESTION.

WHICH IS UKRAINE.

WHICH HAS A JEWISH PRESIDENT WHO

HAS BECOME A GLOBAL HERO AND YET

THE RUSSIANS ARE SAYING THEY'RE

TRYING TO DE-NAZIFY UKRAINE AND

TO SOME EXTENT ANTI-SEMITISM

SEEMS TO BE AN UNDER CURRENT IN

A LOT OF THESE DISCUSSIONS.

EXPLAIN YOUR THINKING THERE.

>> BARELY AN UNDER CURRENT.

I THINK WHAT WE'VE SEEN FROM THE

LEADERSHIP OF THE KREMLIN, FROM

PUTIN, FROM LAVROV, THE FOREIGN

MINISTER, AND FROM OTHERS IN THE

LEADERSHIP, IS FIRST OF ALL THE

WEAPONIZATION OF THE HOLOCAUST.

THE WEAPONIZATION OF NAZISM.

TO CALL UKRAINIANS NAZIS AND

WE'RE OUT TO DEFEAT NAZIS, THERE

ARE RIGHT WINGERS IN THAT

GOVERNMENT AND PEOPLE WHO I

CERTAINLY DISAGREE WITH AND

DON'T APPROVE OF BUT TO DESCRIBE

THEM AS NAZIS IS TO WEAPONIZE

THE IMAGERY OF WORLD WAR II.

AND THEN IT WENT EVEN FURTHER

WITH THE FOREIGN MINISTER MAKING

THIS ABSURD CLAIM THAT HITLER'S

MOTHER WAS JEWISH.

PEOPLE CALLED ME UP AND SAID,

WHAT IS THAT?

FIRST OF ALL, IT'S ABSURD.

SECOND OF ALL, WHY IS HE MAKING

IT?

HITLER'S MOTHER WAS NOT JEWISH.

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

BUT WHAT HE WAS SAYING IS

HITLER'S MOTHER WAS JEWISH.

I.E., HITLER WAS JEWISH.

AND WHATEVER BAD THINGS HAPPENED

IN THE HOLOCAUST THE JEWS DID TO

THEMSELVES.

AND IT IS A FORM OF WHAT I CALL

SOFT CORE HOLOCAUST DENIAL.

IT'S NOT DENIAL OF THE FACTS.

BUT IT'S DISTORTION.

IT'S TURNING THINGS ON THEIR

HEAD.

IT'S SAYING, YOU'RE TURNING THE

VICTIMS INTO THE PERPETRATORS.

THEY MAY BE VICTIMS BUT THEY'RE

ALSO PERPETRATORS.

IT WAS DEEPLY, DEEPLY

ANTI-SEMITIC AND IT'S ABSURD.

BUT IT SEEMS THAT PUTIN AND

THOSE AROUND HIM THOUGHT IT

WOULD FIND AN AUDIENCE IF NOT

OUTSIDE RUSSIA CERTAINLY INSIDE

RUSSIA.

>> YOU SAID YOU'RE ABOUT TO GO

MEET WITH YOUR COHORTS AND

COUNTERPARTS ESPECIALLY I ASSUME

IN EUROPE.

TELL ME ABOUT THOSE MEETINGS,

WHETHER THERE IS A GROUP OF

PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF IN EACH

COUNTRY THAT TAKE ON

ANTI-SEMITISM AND ARE YOU GOING

TO PRIORITIZE CERTAIN ACTIONS TO

DO NEXT?

>> WELL, HERE'S SOME GOOD NEWS.

RARELY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

ANTI-SEMITISM OR PREJUDICE IS

THERE GOOD NEWS.

INCREASING NUMBERS OF COUNTRIES,

GERMANY, FRANCE, THE EU, EVEN

THE OAS HAS APPOINTED SOMEONE,

HAVE APPOINTED SPECIAL ENVOYS

SIMILAR TO THIS POSITION.

AND THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT BECAUSE

THE MASSIVE JEWISH POPULATION IN

THEIR MIDST.

THEY'VE DONE IT BECAUSE THEY

BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS A

SERIOUS PROBLEM.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO

TALK ABOUT -- SEE WHAT'S WORKED

AND WHAT HASN'T WORKED.

IN EUROPE YOU'VE HAD AND

CERTAINLY IN ENGLAND AND OTHER

COUNTRIES, GERMANY, PROBLEMS

WITH SPORTS CLUBS, SOCCER CLUBS,

WE ALL FACE THE ONLINE

ANTI-SEMITISM.

THERE IS ANOTHER PLACE I'M GOING

TO BE FOCUSING MY ENERGIES AND

ALSO GOOD NEWS AND THAT'S THE

ABRAHAM ACCORD COUNTRIES.

THAT IN THE GULF AND POSSIBLY IN

OTHER COUNTRIES BOTH IN THE GULF

AND MUSLIM MAJORITY COUNTRIES IN

OTHER PLACES THERE IS AN

INCREASED INTEREST AND

WILLINGNESS TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE

OF ANTI-SEMITISM.

IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR PARTICULAR

POSITION ON TEPGSNSIONS IN THE

MIDDLE EAST, THE ARAB ISRAELI

PALESTINIAN ISSUE THEY ARE

BEGINNING TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS

NOT SOMETHING THAT IS HEALTHY

FOR THEM OR THEY SHOULD BE

EXPORTING TO THE REST OF THE

WORLD.

>> YOU TALK ABOUT WORKING WITH

THE COUNTRIES IN THE GULF STATES

AND THE MIDDLE EAST WHO ARE PART

OF THE ABRAHAM ACCORD.

EXPLAIN TO US WHAT THAT IS AND

WHY YOU FEEL IT IS PROMISING.

>> ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO DURING

THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION THE

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, BAHRAIN,

AND MOROCCO SIGNED ON TO

SOMETHING THEY CALLED THE

ABRAHAM ACCORDS AND SIGNED ON

WITH ISRAEL, THE UNITED STATES.

THERE HAVE BEEN WORKING GROUPS

ON RELIGIOUS FREEDOM IN THESE

COUNTRIES TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT?

IT'S TIME TO RETHINK THE HATRED,

TIME TO RETHINK THE DIFFERENCES.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN, THEY SAID,

YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO FORGET

POLITICAL DIFFERENCES OR

OBJECTIVES BUT THERE HAS BEEN A

HATRED, A DIVISION THAT JUST

ISN'T IN ANYONE'S BENEFIT.

NO ONE EXPECTED IT.

NO ONE FORESAW IT.

THERE HAD BEEN ALL SORTS OF

CONTACTS BETWEEN UAE AND

ISRAELIS ON COMMERCIAL AND OTHER

THINGS QUIETLY BUT NO ONE

EXPECTED IT TO BE AS PUBLIC.

IF YOU HAD TOLD ME EVEN TEN

MONTHS AGO I WOULD BE HEADING

OUT TO THAT REGION TO BE

WELCOMED THERE, TO TALK ABOUT

ANTI-SEMITISM, I WOULDN'T HAVE

BELIEVED IT.

>> YOU TALK ABOUT GOING AROUND

THE WORLD TO TALK ABOUT

ANTI-SEMITISM BUT IS THERE

DIFFICULTY DELIVERING THAT

MESSAGE WHEN MORE THAN HALF OF

BIAS CRIMES IN OUR OWN COUNTRY,

IN THE UNITED STATES, ARE

ANTI-SEMITIC OR AGAINST JEWS?

>> YOU KNOW, IN THE '30s, AND

EVEN THE LATE '30s WHEN THERE

WAS A DEBATE IN 1936 ABOUT

HAVING THE OLYMPICS IN BERLIN,

THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO SAID OH,

WE AMERICANS, WE CAN'T PROTEST

WHAT'S GOING ON IN GERMANY

BECAUSE WE HAVE PROBLEMS IN OUR

COUNTRY.

I TAKE A DIFFERENT ATTITUDE.

I GO TO THEM.

I GO IN HUMILITY.

I SAY OUR COUNTRY IS NOT

PERFECT.

OUR COUNTRY HAS MANY PROBLEMS

AND MANY ISSUES, HAS LONG HAD

THEM.

IS TRYING TO ADDRESS THEM.

SOMETIMES WITH MORE VIGOR

SOMETIMES WITH LESS.

BUT THAT DOESN'T STOP US FROM

SAYING YOU'VE GOT TO DO IT, TOO.

I DON'T COME TO THEM AND SAY OH,

I'M PURE AS, YOU KNOW, FREE FROM

ANY WRONG, PURE AS THE DRIVEN

SNOW.

WE'VE GOT PROBLEMS HERE.

AND I THINK WE ARE TRYING TO

ADDRESS THEM.

SOMETIMES WITH MORE SUCCESS

SOMETIMES WITH LESS SUCCESS.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE

TO, YOU KNOW, FIRST FIX

EVERYTHING HERE AND THEN ONLY

TALK, AND THEN GO TALK TO THOSE

ABROAD.

BUT I GO WITH A DEEP SENSE OF

HUMILITY THAT I'M NOT COMING TO

YOU FROM A PERFECT PLACE.

>> AMBASSADOR DEBRA LIPSTADT,

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING

US.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.