{"id":11207,"date":"2012-06-08T16:32:49","date_gmt":"2012-06-08T20:32:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pbs-wnet-preprod.digi-producers.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/?p=11207"},"modified":"2013-05-10T15:04:10","modified_gmt":"2013-05-10T19:04:10","slug":"june-8-2012-catholic-bishops-whats-at-stake","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pbs-wnet-preprod.digi-producers.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/2012\/06\/08\/june-8-2012-catholic-bishops-whats-at-stake\/11207\/","title":{"rendered":" Catholic Bishops:  What&#8217;s at Stake?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- http:\/\/www-tc.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/rss\/media\/video\/episode.1541.catholic.conversation.m4v --><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align:center\"><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>KIM LAWTON<\/strong>, Managing Editor, Religion &amp; Ethics NewsWeekly: After a  two-year-long investigation, the Vatican strongly condemned a 2006 book  on sexuality written by a prominent American nun.  The Vatican\u2019s doctrine office said Just Love by Sister Margaret Farley reflects a \u201cdefective understanding\u201d of church teaching on issues including  masturbation, homosexuality, marriage and divorce. Sister Farley taught  Christian ethics at Yale Divinity School for more than 30 years. She  said her book was not intended to be an expression of official Catholic  teaching, but rather an \u201cexploration of contemporary interpretations.\u201d  With this week\u2019s news, the book has shot up the bestsellers charts. Many lay Catholics around the country have been rallying in support of US nuns. Last week, the umbrella group representing the majority of  American Catholic sisters pushed back against a Vatican rebuke of them.  In April, the Vatican accused the Leadership Conference of Women  Religious (LCWR) of having \u201cserious doctrinal problems\u201d and ordered the group to place itself under the authority of Seattle\u2019s archbishop.  Conference leaders will go to Rome Tuesday (June 12) for a meeting with  church officials to discuss the situation.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile at the Vatican, the  investigation continues in the so-called \u201cVatiLeaks\u201d scandal in which  private papal documents have been leaked to journalists. The pope\u2019s  butler, Paolo Gabriele, was formally questioned this week. Under Vatican  law, he faces up to six years in prison on charges of aggravated theft  of the documents. But after Gabriele\u2019s arrest, more documents were  leaked, along with an anonymous note threatening still more unless  certain church officials resign, including Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone,  the Vatican secretary of state. Bertone, who has been targeted in many  of the leaks, accompanied Pope Benedict XVI to Milan last weekend for a  huge event\u2014the World Meeting of Families. An estimated one million  people attended a special Mass there. Benedict announced the next World  Meeting of Families will be in Philadelphia, in 2015. He said he looks  forward to taking part \u201cGod willing.\u201d He\u2019ll then be 88 years old.<\/p>\n<p>Amid  all of this, the US Catholic bishops will be holding their semi-annual  meeting this coming week in Atlanta. Joining me now are Kevin Eckstrom,  editor in chief of Religion News Service, and Patricia Zapor, staff  writer of Catholic News Service. Welcome to both of you. On their public  agenda, the bishops right now don\u2019t have a discussion scheduled about  the situation with the nuns, but a lot of people say they\u2019ve got to be  talking about it behind closed doors. How big of an issue is this for  them and for the church? Kevin.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pbs-wnet-preprod.digi-producers.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2012\/06\/post01-catholicbishops.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"280\" height=\"210\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-11232\" \/><strong>KEVIN ECKSTROM<\/strong>, Editor in Chief,  Religion News Service: I think it is a big issue for them, because the  bishops and the hierarchy have really had a public relations headache on  this. This has not played out the way that they thought. People are  rallying around the nuns. They\u2019re coming to their defense. But I think,  really, what you are seeing is a bit, not quite a civil war but kind of a  civil skirmish within the US church about what it means to be Catholic.  The hierarchy says, you know, you can\u2019t stray the line on orthodoxy or  theology, and we need you to be talking about homosexuality and abortion  and gay marriage. And the nuns say, well, actually we want to talk  about social justice, and we want to talk about the poor, and we want to  talk about what else it means to be Catholic. And so it\u2019s a fight over  when you\u2019re a Catholic in the public sphere what do you talk about, what  do you emphasize?<\/p>\n<p><strong>PATRICIA ZAPOR<\/strong>, Staff Writer,  Catholic News Service: And the sisters have long maintained that it\u2019s  not that they don\u2019t follow the church teaching on issues like abortion  and same-sex marriage and so on, but that they see their charism is to  take care of the poor, to take care of the people who are marginalized  in society. You know, they don\u2019t see focusing on one as diminishing the  other in terms of issues that are important.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ECKSTROM<\/strong>: It\u2019s not a zero sum gain for the nuns.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZAPOR<\/strong>: Right, right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>:  What happens if, in this meeting that they\u2019re having this coming week  in Rome, they decide that they just can\u2019t go along with what the Vatican  is directing? What happens then?<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pbs-wnet-preprod.digi-producers.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2012\/06\/post02-catholicbishops.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"280\" height=\"210\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-11233\" \/><strong>ZAPOR<\/strong>: Well, it\u2019s quite  possible, and some have discussed this, that the sisters could form a  separate organization that does not come under the canonical auspices  that the LCWR does. That\u2019s one of the possibilities on the table.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>:  Another thing that is on the bishops\u2019 schedule is talking about  religious freedom. They\u2019re launching a campaign called \u201cThe Fortnight of  Freedom\u201d in the next couple of weeks. They\u2019ve been talking about this.  What are they doing, Kevin?<\/p>\n<p><strong>ECKSTROM<\/strong>: Well, they\u2019re  launching this fourteen-day period that ends on Independence Day, very  deliberately, to talk about religious freedom. But they\u2019re not just  talking about the contraception mandate, which is the big thing that\u2019s  gotten all of the attention, but they\u2019re also talking about the ability  to hire and fire people who share their faith\u2014that that\u2019s a big deal. Or  the ability of Catholic business owners to be able to set their own  policies on things like offering birth control to their employees. It\u2019s  not just about the public sphere, but it\u2019s about the private sphere,  too. So the contraception is the one that\u2019s gotten all of the attention,  but they have a\u2014it\u2019s sort of a multifaceted agenda that they\u2019re looking  at.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: And how has that campaign been received in  the pews, or what did the bishops want it to be received&#8211;how did they  want it to be received?<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZAPOR<\/strong>: Well, they would like  enthusiastic response from parishioners to write letters to members of  Congress, to do whatever they\u2014is within their power to let Congress and  let the administration know how they feel. The response varies around  the country. Some parishes are wholeheartedly jumping behind it. Some  are doing less, some might in some places be just letting it go and  letting people decide to do things on their own. It varies a lot from  one place to another.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pbs-wnet-preprod.digi-producers.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2012\/06\/post03-catholicbishops.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"280\" height=\"210\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-11234\" \/><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: And, of course, a major  thing on the schedule is, it\u2019s hard to believe it\u2019s the tenth  anniversary of the bishops\u2019 development of their charter. They call it  their guidelines to prevent clergy sex abuse to protect children. What  are they discussing now, ten years later?<\/p>\n<p><strong>ECKSTROM<\/strong>: Well,  they\u2019re basically looking back to see how effective it\u2019s been. You  know, have they been able to clean up the mess that erupted ten years  ago. And to a large degree they have. But the continuing issue  that they have, and again, it\u2019s sort of a public relations problem, is  that they are seen as going after nuns and Girl Scouts and rogue  theologians, but there\u2019s still no real mechanism to hold bishops  accountable. The men themselves who allow the problem to get out of  hand\u2014you can\u2019t sanction a bishop, you can\u2019t fire a bishop. Only the pope  can do that, and there\u2019s no mechanism, and so a lot of people say,  you\u2019ve done great work over the past ten years, thank you for that, but  you still need to hold yourselves accountable.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZAPOR<\/strong>: And  on the scale of the way things work in the church, ten years is  actually a pretty short amount of time, and I don\u2019t think there\u2019s much  dispute that they\u2019ve made huge progress in putting structures into place  in parishes and dioceses to deal with any possible accusation that  comes up and to deal with perpetrators as they appear and also to help  victims. Ten years is a short amount of time, as difficult as that might  be to believe in this world.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: And, in fact, I\u2019ve  heard some people say, believe it or not, you know, the Catholic church  may be one of the safest institutions for children because of all of  that\u2014people are looking at overseas it\u2019s being used as a model\u2014but yet  not necessarily followed. Are they looking to change or tinker with this  policy at this meeting?<\/p>\n<p><strong>ECKSTROM<\/strong>: They have not made  any major changes, at least in the last couple years, and there\u2019s been  no real push for changes from within the conference, but I think you\u2019re  right. We saw in the Penn State scandal that, you know, this is not just  a Catholic problem and that Penn State and schools and other industries  can learn a lot from what the church has learned over these past ten  years, and that\u2019s really what the bishops started with.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LAWTON<\/strong>: Well, alright. 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