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BOB ABERNETHY<\/strong>, anchor: Now, a conversation about the spirit of the country on the eve of the Obama inauguration. Alice McDermott is a writer, a National Book Award winner, whose latest novel is \u201cAfter This<\/a>.\u201d Rabbi Marc Gopin is director of the Center on Religion, Diplomacy, and Conflict Resolution at George Mason University in Virginia. And Dr. Robert Franklin is president of Morehouse College in Atlanta.<\/p>\n

Welcome to all of you. Bob Franklin, the mood of a country is an ambitious and sometimes elusive thing to try to get at. But what do you sense, especially among African Americans?<\/p>\n

\n\n\n\n
\"\"<\/a>Dr. Robert Franklin<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n

Dr. ROBERT FRANKLIN<\/strong> (President, Morehouse College, Atlanta, GA): I think that Barack Obama\u2019s election has evoked a sense of renaissance \u2014 of rebirth, renewal of our confidence and deep spirit of hopefulness that America can truly live out the meaning of its creed, as Dr. King said in 1963. And what I encounter all around the county is a sense of new possibility. At my college, Morehouse, two day following the election we gathered the students. We had a couple thousand students in the Martin Luther King Jr. International Chapel on the Morehouse campus, and I asked the guys, \u201cLook you have an open mike today. I\u2019d just like to know what is the meaning of this for you, your families,\u201d and they said, \u201cDr. Franklin, we were very excited. We feel that this is just tremendous. It shows America\u2019s greatness. But we really didn\u2019t appreciate the full impact of this until we called home and heard mothers and grandfathers weeping on the other end of the phone,\u201d and that sense that their prayers were being fulfilled is just amazing at this time.<\/p>\n

ABERNETHY:<\/strong> And some of them said some things to you about their own prospects?<\/p>\n

Dr. FRANKLIN<\/strong>: Oh, I\u2019ll tell you, it was an amazing theme that began to emerge that can be summarized in two words: no excuses. I mean, one after the other they got up and said, \u201cYou know, after this election it means there\u2019re no excuses for our academic underperformance, for our irresponsible behavior \u2014 no excuses. And one of the young men looked at the rest of the students and said, \u201cYou guys, there are a few of you who come to class late, a few of you who are not prepared for class \u2014 no excuses.\u201d So it\u2019s interesting the way in which the sense that Obama has achieved this, we are now able to achieve. America permits achievement.<\/p>\n

ABERNETHY<\/strong>: Is that showing up in work habits, in homework done?<\/p>\n

Dr. FRANKLIN<\/strong>: It already has, believe it or not.<\/p>\n

ABERNETHY<\/strong>: Really?<\/p>\n

Dr. FRANKLIN<\/strong>: Yes, I\u2019ve already seen this sense in the guys. You know, at Morehouse we teach students how to become Renaissance men with social conscience and global perspective, and we talk about the importance of being well-read and well-spoken and well-traveled, well-dressed and well-balanced. And already these guys are saying, \u201cYou know, Obama\u2019s a Renaissance man.\u201d He reads. He writes, Alice. He writes coherent,\u00a0elegant sentences in his own hand. Gee whiz, that\u2019s refreshing.<\/p>\n

ABERNETHY<\/strong>: Well, that\u2019s refreshing. It\u2019s amazing.<\/p>\n

Dr. FRANKLIN<\/strong>: It really is inspiring\u00a0college students.<\/p>\n

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\"\"<\/a>Alice McDermott<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n

ABERNETHY<\/strong>: Alice McDermott, what about the rest of the country? Bob Franklin is talking about how it is for African Americans. What about the people you know, and the people you\u2019ve written about?<\/p>\n

ALICE MCDERMOTT<\/strong> (Author): Well, first I have to start with as a writer how wonderful it is to once again hear people talk about language as something that does something other than obscure and misdirect \u2014 that wonderful, beautiful language is not just rhetoric that we dismiss, but something that can inspire us and speak to our hearts and speak to our spirits. It\u2019s, as a writer, it\u2019s been a wonderful resurgence of hope for me on a personal level that Obama\u2019s language and Obama\u2019s speech has once again opened up, I think to all of us, the possibility of what words can do in a good way.<\/p>\n

ABERNETHY<\/strong>: But it\u2019s not all euphoria is it? I mean, isn\u2019t there some skepticism, too?<\/p>\n

Ms. MCDERMOTT<\/strong>: Well, I think we all have to, every once in a while, keep our feet on the ground and be reminded not only of the troubles ahead and the situation. And I think Obama has done a very good job at reminding us of this, that the reality is that we still have a long road. And I think what most people have appreciated from both sides \u2014 Democrats, Republicans, white and black, and hesitant about this presidency and euphoric over it \u2014 I think the sense that we can have reasonable discourse again, that we\u2019re not angry at each other all the time, that we can acknowledge one to the other that we don\u2019t agree on all this but there are some things we can agree on and we can speak about.<\/p>\n

ABERNETHY<\/strong>: Rabbi Gopin, your special field is conflict resolution, international mainly, I think. You\u2019re just back from Jerusalem?<\/p>\n

Rabbi MARC GOPIN<\/strong> (Director, Center on Religion, Diplomacy and Conflict Resolution, George Mason University): Yes.<\/p>\n

ABERNETHY<\/strong>: What do you hear, what do you hear there about expectations?<\/p>\n

Rabbi GOPIN<\/strong>: Well, as a matter of fact I gave a speech just three days ago in Jerusalem at a place that was a bipartisan center for meetings of Palestinians and Jews \u2014 a\u00a0 lot of wonderful people who are not on the news, who are relating to each other constantly. And I was amazed by one comment from a very religious young Jewish man who was looking to Obama as somebody who would be a spiritual savior for the Middle East because of his example of bipartisanship and his example of what Alice was talking about \u2014 the redemptive power of words to inspire and to make change, and also the call to responsibility.<\/p>\n

ABERNETHY<\/strong>: So, we want this new president who\u2019s going to be coming in, we want him to solve all the problems of the American economy, we want him to deal with global warming, we want him to solve a couple of wars, and now you\u2019re saying that people in the Middle East want him to be their spiritual savior. Is that what you said?<\/p>\n

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\"\"<\/a>Rabbi Marc Gopin<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n

Rabbi GOPIN<\/strong>: I\u2019m amazed at the language, but I also have to say that one of the reasons why people see this as a prophetic voice \u2014 his as a prophetic voice \u2014 because his is a call to responsibility. I think one of the reasons why every time he speaks he practically makes me weep is because he reminds me for the first time in 40 years of my heroes from 40 years ago who died \u2014 Martin Luther King, Bobby Kennedy, and others who didn\u2019t just say I will take care of you.\u00a0 It was a call to responsibility. It was something that we would all do together. It was enormously empowering, so not only am I moved, but my 12-year-old daughter and my seven-year-old daughter were calling people all over the country \u2014 kids their age \u2014 to register their families to vote. I mean it was an amazing moment for America, and people around the world are sensing that.<\/p>\n

ABERNETHY<\/strong>: But let me get back, Alice, let me get back to this skepticism or, you know, realism or whatever one might call it. The people that you write about, if they were real people, what would they be saying? Would they be saying that there\u2019s this \u2014 would they be looking toward Obama for salvation?<\/p>\n

Ms. MCDERMOTT<\/strong>: Well, you know, I think there\u2019s two sides to change, and I think we have to recognize that there\u2019s also a large portion of the population who are frightened by change, and for them this is a very big change. This is a huge change, not only the way we talk about ourselves and the way we talk about our government, but that we have come to this moment where a black man is taking the oath of office. And there\u2019s a large segment of the population that says, \u201cWow, everything\u2019s changed.\u201d And that\u2019s not always something that makes them feel comfortable, and I think that\u2019s something that we have to acknowledge. But, again, I think Obama has done a good job at speaking to that.<\/p>\n

Dr. FRANKLIN<\/strong>: Bob, you know, let me just play on this, because I think this is a time when the nation and the world can pivot from despair and tragedy, disappointment, economic downturn to possibility and imagining themselves behaving differently, feeling, responding to the call…<\/p>\n

ABERNETHY<\/strong>: I think…<\/p>\n

Dr. FRANKLIN<\/strong>: …both my\u00a0colleagues have talked about…<\/p>\n

ABERNETHY<\/strong>: I think some of us …<\/p>\n

Dr. FRANKLIN<\/strong>: Dr. King…<\/p>\n

ABERNETHY<\/strong>: I\u2019m sorry, go ahead.<\/p>\n

Dr. FRANKLIN<\/strong>: No, I just wanted to invoke Dr. King\u2019s words in his last speech. You know, \u201cwe\u2019ve got some difficult days ahead.\u201d And think about that \u2014 the way he prepared his \u2014and he would be dead the next day. \u201cWe\u2019ve got some difficult days ahead, but I\u2019ve been to the mountain top, and I\u2019ve seen the Promised Land.\u201d And I think it\u2019s that legacy of King pivoting from despair and tragedy and conflict to there\u2019s possibility. But you have to step up, as Rabbi Hillel in one of my favorite quotes, you know: \u201cThe world is equally balanced between good and evil. It\u2019s your next act that will tip the scale.\u201d<\/p>\n

ABERNETHY<\/strong>: We have to stop there.\u00a0 I\u2019m sorry. This is really fascinating. Many thanks to Marc Gopin, Alice McDermott, and Robert Franklin.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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