{"id":6442,"date":"2010-06-11T11:37:45","date_gmt":"2010-06-11T15:37:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pbs-wnet-preprod.digi-producers.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/?p=6442"},"modified":"2013-05-29T11:46:32","modified_gmt":"2013-05-29T15:46:32","slug":"june-11-2010-pilgrimage-to-chartres","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pbs-wnet-preprod.digi-producers.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/2010\/06\/11\/june-11-2010-pilgrimage-to-chartres\/6442\/","title":{"rendered":" Pilgrimage to Chartres"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Originally broadcast <a href=\"https:\/\/pbs-wnet-preprod.digi-producers.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/episodes\/june-19-2009\/pilgrimage-to-chartres\/3283\/\">June 19, 2009<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>FRED DE SAM LAZARO<\/strong> (guest anchor): Earlier this month in France an annual event took place that has been described as perhaps the largest public expression of traditional Catholicism in the world. It is a three-day, 72-mile pilgrimage from Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris to the cathedral at Chartres. A history professor from New York City who has made the pilgrimage several times describes the experience.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-3318\" src=\"https:\/\/pbs-wnet-preprod.digi-producers.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2009\/06\/paris.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"240\" height=\"180\" \/>Dr. <strong>JOHN RAO<\/strong> (Associate Professor of History, St. John\u2019s University, New York): My name is John Rao. I&#8217;m associate professor of history at St. John\u2019s University. I\u2019ve done the pilgrimage to Chartres about six or seven times. The regular preparations involve making sure you\u2019ve got the right footwear more than anything else. Being a New Yorker and not owning a car, I walk a lot.<\/p>\n<p>You\u2019ve started from a point, Notre Dame, which has this extraordinary impact on you because of its beauty and because of the fervor of the people praying and singing in it. And what the architecture of the cathedral and the light passing through the windows does is it makes it clear that God, the Father of lights, provides us a world which was incredibly more diverse and beautiful than anyone might think.<\/p>\n<p>The route to Chartres begins the first morning mostly in Paris and the surrounding areas.<\/p>\n<p>When we\u2019re talking about the people who make up the pilgrimage, the first thing to note is that probably about 70 percent of them are young people \u2014 people in their late teens and in their early 20s. There are people from all over Europe. The majority are French, of course, but from every country that I can imagine, from Africa, from Asia, from the United States.<\/p>\n<p>A lot of these chapters are groups that stick together at home, and they have a lot of their own particular songs, which are not specifically religious but more focused on just subjects involving history and culture of the country as well.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s so clear, it\u2019s so sunny. By the afternoon people are going to start suffering from heat. The big thing for people who haven\u2019t done it before is to get them to drink water.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-3321\" src=\"https:\/\/pbs-wnet-preprod.digi-producers.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2009\/06\/grass.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"240\" height=\"180\" \/>The Mass on the first day is usually in a field. The Masses that are held during the pilgrimage and at Chartres itself are the traditional Latin Mass. In other words, the liturgy before the reforms that are associated with Pope Paul VI.<\/p>\n<p>You have, perhaps, certainly at least 100 priests who are hearing confessions during all of this, and they\u2019re scattered all through these lunch scenes and in the woods and in little deserted areas.<\/p>\n<p>Their Catholicism is a fervent Catholicism, traditional in the sense that it\u2019s very much focused on a spirituality that uses the traditional liturgy of the Church, takes that very seriously, the traditional devotions, the traditional Latin liturgy. And then they have to give communion to as many as 10,000 people.<\/p>\n<p>The pilgrimage began in the Middle Ages. Chartres was always an important place and had great meaning in the life of the Christian world in the kingdom of France in the Middle Ages. Joan of Arc made this pilgrimage. Louis XIV, I believe, made the pilgrimage. After Vatican II there were \u2014 there was a lot of confusion that developed in Catholic believers\u2019 minds about what they ought to be doing, what they ought not to be doing, whether they were putting too much of an emphasis on particular practices that somehow or other had become outmoded, and as a consequence things like pilgrimages ended up suffering. It resumed precisely due to the concerns of groups that, by this point, were calling themselves traditionalists who wanted to commit themselves to maintaining practices which they felt to be, spiritually, extremely beneficial.<\/p>\n<p>The second day of the pilgrimage, the Mass is in the woods \u2014 same kind of Mass, beautiful music, priests hearing confession.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-3320\" src=\"https:\/\/pbs-wnet-preprod.digi-producers.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2009\/06\/kiss.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"240\" height=\"180\" \/><em><strong>MICHAEL MATT<\/strong> (speaking to pilgrims): My name is Michael Matt. I\u2019m the head of the American contingent, the American chapter for the Chartres pilgrimage. <\/em><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s definitely a youth movement. They very easily, in many instances, can really tap into this whole tradition, the foundation of the Catholic faith. It doesn\u2019t matter that they don\u2019t understand every word of the Latin. They\u2019re attracted to the centrality of the liturgy. They\u2019re attracted to the rubric and the ritual and to the idea of suffering for what you believe in.<\/p>\n<p><strong>PILGRIM<\/strong>: Can you smell the grass? Can you feel your feet? This is the real world, especially when you put rosaries into it, traditional Masses, allegiance to the Holy Father. This is the real world that we\u2019re all seeking for.<\/p>\n<p>Dr. <strong>RAO<\/strong>: The entire pilgrimage is of an impact that\u2019s hard to describe. A pilgrimage is a microcosm of what life is. Life, from a Catholic standpoint, is a pilgrimage\u2014from birth to death, from our birth to our ultimate, eternal experience with God\u2014and what the pilgrimage does is it takes you, for a short space of time, to a time out of time. You\u2019re out of your ordinary daily experiences. All of the ordinary things that bother one during the course of a day just disappear, even to the point in a physical way that, after a couple of days, you don\u2019t care what you look like.<\/p>\n<p><strong>PILGRIM<\/strong>: I\u2019m pretty tired, but other than that it\u2019s invigorating. Spiritually lifted, that\u2019s for sure. It\u2019s amazing to be with tons of Catholics \u2014 thousands of them.<\/p>\n<p>Dr. <strong>RAO<\/strong>: I find myself thinking about everything that I ought to do in life \u2014 everything that I have done wrong. I go back through all of the experiences of my life and where I thought that I should have done something better.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-3316\" src=\"https:\/\/pbs-wnet-preprod.digi-producers.pbs.org\/wnet\/religionandethics\/files\/2009\/06\/insidechurch.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"240\" height=\"180\" \/>The third day, the last day of the pilgrimage, everyone is exuberant, because if you\u2019d made it to that last day you know you\u2019re going to make it. You know you\u2019re really going to make it. You\u2019re in forests, you\u2019re in fields \u2014 endless, endless fields. You at least get to see, after a certain point, the spires of Chartres in front of you. It can become particularly grueling because it takes a long time for that spire in the distance to really get truly bigger.<\/p>\n<p>There was more of a, maybe a penitential spirit yesterday, but today it\u2019s joy. It\u2019s just joy. When you get onto the roads, in the real suburbs of Chartres, then you can see it looming more and more, and then you begin this walk, which is a last torturous walk up this long shaded path that takes you up into the town itself. That\u2019s when you see it there, you know, in all of its glory.<\/p>\n<p>What most stirs me up is the fact that you\u2019ve managed to do it. You\u2019ve managed to do it. You\u2019ve finished it. When we\u2019re at Chartres we have a solemn High Mass, and all of this is surrounded with a great deal of ritual and ceremony.<\/p>\n<p>You could see 10,000, or 15,000 fervent Catholics, most of them young people, deeply committed to this traditional rite of Mass. These people who are part of the pilgrimage, and then who finish the pilgrimage with us as well, their spiritual fervor is accompanied with, again, a great love for music. By the time it\u2019s over, the feeling of exaltation is hard to describe, just hard to describe.<\/p>\n<p>The newer generation found what that old rite had to offer \u2014 spiritually satisfying, spiritually uplifting, and in a way that you could see almost in no other event that took place in the annual life of the church. The entire three days is emotional.<\/p>\n<p>What to do in the future? This spirit of pilgrimage should be continued on the day-to-day basis for the rest of your life.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Originally broadcast June 19, 2009 FRED DE SAM LAZARO (guest anchor): Earlier this month in France an annual event took place that has been described as perhaps the largest public expression of traditional Catholicism in the world. 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